Eric Pickles comes across as alright, shame the interviewer seemed to dominate the scenario, its one thing to pose the opposite view in a debate, but to stand there and batter down people who are trying to vote for the idea of reducing council tax, makes you look like an idiot. Its important for council budgets to be able to go down as well as up, something they and many other public institutions have failed to do becasue they dont live in the real market.