population density england :

England 50.1 million (83.7 per cent) 130,281 383 /km²
Scotland 5.08 million (8.5 per cent) 13,576 125 /km²
Wales 2.95 million (4.9 per cent) 77,925 65 /km²
Northern Ireland 1.7 million (2.9 per cent) 20,732 142 /km²
United Kingdom 59.8 million 242,514 246 /km²
East of england a population of 5,388,140 in an area of 19,120 km² (circa 2001 much higher now)
South east england 8 million population packed into 19,096 km² or roughly 419 in people per km² (circa 2001 much higher now)
London 7,51 million — 4,758/km (circa 2006) as you can see the population of london alone is probably now higher including an estimated 700,000 illegals than scotland and wales populations combined.

from my perspective the places i’m worried abut being overpopulated are london and the southeast, so lets work out the population density of that zone :

London 7,51 million — 4,758/km (circa 2006) as you can see the population of london alone is probably now higher including an estimated 700,000 illegals than scotland and wales populations combined.
South east england 8 million population packed into 19,096 km² or roughly 419 in people per km² (circa 2001 much higher now)

So the total population for london and the south east of england (circa 2001) is 15,510,000 living in an area of 23854 km² or 658 people per km² circa 2001 you could probably add another 100 to that estimate now I should imagine at least with illegals included. so circa 2010 you might well be talking 758 people per km²

other densely populated countrys for reference:

Netherlands 16.6 million population 399.89 people per km² (

so southern england is more densely populated than the netherlands ! or other countrys like belgium.

Greater London covers an area of 1,579 square kilometres (610 sq mi), an area which had a population of 7,172,036 in 2001 and a population density of 4,542 people per square kilometre. A larger area, referred to as the London Metropolitan Region or the London Metropolitan Agglomeration covers an area of 8,382 square kilometres (3,236 sq mi) has a population of 12,653,500 and a population density of 1,510 people per square kilometre

now if you were to take out of this equation farmed land used in food production which couldnt be converted to alternate uses without damaging food production, and see how many urban dwellers were packed into the remaining areas within south east england you would probably discover statistics in most towns 2/3rd’s of the way toward Londons insane densitys.

so truthfully it is much worse than people really understand in the southeast

to visualise this make a kilometer flat field in your imagination and put 758 people in it and you will notice that that the population is extremely visible upon the landscape. now give each of those people the necessary houses cars and amenitys and you will see that if we want southern england to become more densely populated it is going to become an uglier place to live.

urban density figures which are much more realistic representative figures in relation to most peoples experience are obviously allot higher, as most farmland and villages could be removed from this equation, as the majority of people do not live in such circumstances or can take advantage of such spaces, and as such actually personally experience much higher densitys, than the figures for south east england and london combined would imply.

do I want more immigration on the basis of these figures NO!

Also if you did a survey and discovered what size of family people aspire to and what size house they would like to accomodate them in, you would discover if you multiplied that up by the people we are already at the stage where large numbers of people hopes for quality of life are unrealistic and unfullfillable and going to be diminished allot further in the future, and the UK having the smallest dwelling size in europe is proof of this, you really do have to ask the question what quality of life will the grandchildren have ? thats the question.

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