As regards Saints Row Three :

Saints Row III seems to be as offensive if not more so than GTA, its wierd to think in games, american gang culture, and the hero figure being an uncouth, ghastly muscled thug is what sells these games, where does this end ? and why does this stuff have such a draw on the imagination ? I can only assume you enjoy Saints Row in an ironic way ? If you were to bring a victorian forward through time to see this, theyd probably have an apopleptic fit over what culture lauds as worth indulging in ?

just so you can get an idea of where are culture has come from and is going to in relation to the hero figures we identify with in fiction :

Here is the kind of hero we identified with in the victorian era (obviously this is a relatively modern re-creation but the style is from the books which are circa the victorian period):

Ok heres what some modern youth today might identify with as a lead character, simon and lewis choosing their characters in saints row, apparently this is a london man ? and he is the character theyve chosen to play, ironically or not…

excerpt taken from the original yogscast youtube video here for the fulle saints row thing whatever that is, I guess we have to consider whether its worse or better than beating someone to death with a purple dildo in GTA ? as per simon and lewis are infectiously funny

ok you say its fiction its a comic, its not real … chill, but if you spend most of your gaming life playing prick heros and identifying with villains, does it have any warping on your own identity ?

re-comment from youtube by some defender of saints row prolly a marketing guy :

not trying to sound mean or anything but if you dont like it you dont have to watch it there is actually a pretty good story for this game and for the most part your not that bad of a guy even though your a gangster and a psychopath your just out for revenge in this game because the guy in the beggining of this video the belgian guy kills one of your best freinds that has been in the series since the first game

For the moment I watch all yogscast videos on principle, regardless of how rubbish the game is, I watch the channel for them, often not the game in question. You call that mess a story ? surely only in its most simplistic sense ? This is true game pulp fiction, please read your own quote “because the guy in the beggining of this video the belgian guy kills one of your best freinds” really ?

I see because of this explanation im supposed to care about these characters am I ? I suggest you need to read a really good book or watch a film with actual plot and characters, and stop feeding your mind this junk ? people only bother to read a book or watch films or play games when they can beleive in the characters and their motives, and the plot doesnt become to distended with OTT action scenes which this games seems pasted together with. Pity such technical skill was put into it.