Boy Scouts … Oh Sorry … apologies for being male … Scouts ! what ?

Save the Scouting Association from this Madness.

Boys May not Join guides or brownies, but girls may join cubs and scouts, this is ridiculous over PC male prejudice gone mad.

There is another organisation that caters for both girls and boys in the same troops “woodcraft”, there is no necessity to insist on being a cub or a boy scout as a girl, all you need to do is make sure the ethos in the brownies or guides is more adventurous as there is no reason why brownies and guides can’t be as exciting as cubs and scouts ?

What needs to be understood here, is that in this over pc world, where there is no separation of the sexes at any point. Boys could do with a break from girls and girls could do with a break from boys, after all i’m sure boys who have been at school all day with girls, sometimes like the idea of hanging out with other boys and just doing boy things without having there minds addled by the pressure of interrelating with girls or having to consider another sex in the equation of their activitys, as boys in a group all together have one dynamic, and throw a girl into that mix and that dynamic gets skewed as boys make efforts to appear in a certain light for the favour of the girl, which makes pecking order behaviour patterns much more obvious and ghastly. Boys learn male Camaraderie from this activity, I think and dare I say, allot of this decay in the boy scouts movement has been caused by a few rogue Akela’s, and over-sensitive mothers, whos overtly PC and feminist ideals, have taken over from theyre care of duty to the boys.

Luckily my version of both the cubs and boy scouts I experienced were close enough to BP’s original vision of scouting for boys to make it worthwhile pursuing as an activity.

The uniform had some kind of pep left although it had been much diminished. the cap instead of a hat was a terrible move, but that was before my time.

I got my axe-mans badge at the age of ? … having thought about this current cub rules say you can’t join cubs until your eight, but I swear I was in cubs well before that age … born in 1972 … maybe I think some cub leaders were a little more Laissez-faire on age requirements, I swear I was between five or seven when i got my axemans badge no older, it was very much the days of, duffers are better dead, Arthur Ransome style self responsibility in those days, it was only later in the eighties that wet parents ruined all the fun, as more and more safety law came in, the kids got to have less and less fun.

At that age I remember passing my axemans badge and chopping wood to keep a fire going all week on camp, having the kindling racked between stakes at different grades, various kinds of washbowl stands, allot of wood and twine ingenuity, an underground oven made from a large cake style tin with doors on them, gutting fresh fish and cooking it, in those days camping looked more like a medieval encampment, quite allot of smoke about, I remember once entering a tent on portsdown hill to see some scout masters prepping what must have been hundreds of tilly and hurricane lamps, they were all fizzing and blazing, golden polished, it was a magical scene I will always remember.

Basically boy scouts and cubs should be for boys and girl guides and brownies should be for girls, if girls want to join scouts and cubs that just implys the ethos of guiding and the brownie movements needs tweaking, to account for girls changing needs, for more outdoor adventure type stuff. The two movements can camp on the same camp grounds whats the problem ?

The Problem in the scouting movement at the moment is the higher bureaucracy of the movement is battering the people in the face who put the work in to run the scout movement at the ground level, example this article :

Mr Bates and other scout leaders sacked by “Kam Patel”

This is disgracefull !!! Baden Powell would be rolling in his grave to see this, Mr Bates and his colleagues are perfectly right to assert that their troop would not take girls, as actually in the current age, boys get little opportunity to be boys without the distraction of girls and learn some male camaraderie and fellowship, and “Kam Patel” whether as all good bureaucratical lackeys, acting under instruction from above or not, it is completely wrong.

As always an extremely vocal minority group wrecked scouting for boys, a few feminists, a few idiots is all it takes to not understand the full complexitys of everything, and tear down sensible and subtle understandings. Baden Powell built something for boys when he made scouting, and that might seem selfish in this age, But I can assure you it was an act of devotion, to the concept of boyhood.

And we need to put some oomph back into the cubs and scouting movement, by not promising to indemnify and guarantee wet parents against from theyre own childrens total possible self inflicted peril ? for who can ?

Its a matter of trust between the leader and the parents and if theyre is none, then there isn’t much point in being a scout leader, as it will be a thankless task.

truth is children need exposure to the outdoors making theyre own food and basic survival and camping skills, self responsibility and to think of others as it enhances them and makes them more rounded human beings, most of the people who were ever cubs and scouts in my day turned out decent people later in life.

someone who puts this more succinctly and rightfully vehemently than me :